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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 2/5/2009 4:39:04 PM
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spasquel,
Welcome to the boards.
No one has questioned anyone's heart (salvation). But what is done and has been done is to test all things in light of Scripture.
That is not only the biblical thing to do, it is the wise thing to do.
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 2/12/2009 10:24:00 AM
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Didn't think jealous. Perhaps, fearful?
Hello GodsGiddyGirl,
The fearful one, Michael Tyrrell linked in post #5 by Kat_D was hiding under his sound board according to his story while a poor-sounding and technically inept "angel"--if anyone believes that--made his appearance on the recording. It sounds a lot like the talkback button was employed--by whoever. Anyway, fault me for holding "angels" and talebearers to a higher standard, 'cause I don't buy this hokie tale.
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 2/12/2009 10:38:36 AM
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If it was an angel, he needs singing lessons. Flat and so was Jason.
Blessed are those who have not seen....or heard, in this case, I guess.....
and believe.
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RE: Why not trust an angel? - 3/3/2009 7:19:17 PM
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I find it a bit ironic that while those aforementioned people are probably out there in the real world praising, worshiping and helping lead the unsaved to CHRIST..sitting here in front of the computer are people cursing those that could very well be anointed by God. I have a loving God, but I also fear the Lord.. He has said I am not to judge..especially those He has anointed. I cannot say who is and who is not..but I sure do not want to run the risk of upsetting the Lord! Please do not get offended by this reply.This is the first and the last time I will ever read these threads anyway.
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 3/4/2009 8:56:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: SirWintery
The fearful one, Michael Tyrrell linked in post #5 by Kat_D was hiding under his sound board according to his story while a poor-sounding and technically inept "angel"--if anyone believes that--made his appearance on the recording. It sounds a lot like the talkback button was employed--by whoever. Anyway, fault me for holding "angels" and talebearers to a higher standard, 'cause I don't buy this hokie tale.
Salutations to you, Sir Wintery.
Returning from Brasil, I read your post. It seems some in this thread place too much emphasis on angels. Again, I own 2 of Jason Upton’s worship CDs, including the one in question. When worshiping, it’s not about angels or talk-back buttons, it’s about God. Daddy God, Jesus and Holy Spirit.
Blessings, God’s Giddy Girl
< Message edited by GodsGiddyGirl -- 3/4/2009 9:15:05 PM >
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RE: Why not trust an angel? - 2/25/2010 2:02:12 AM
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If you disagree with those who judge, then why are you so quick to judge those who judge?!? You fear upsetting the Lord by judging, however have you ever considered the Lord might be upset by your lack of judgment?
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 2/25/2010 2:04:53 AM
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If it was an angel, he needs singing lessons. Flat and so was Jason.
Blessed are those who have not seen....or heard, in this case, I guess.....
and believe.
A-MEN to that!!!
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 2/25/2010 2:37:05 AM
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ORIGINAL: SirWintery
The fearful one, Michael Tyrrell linked in post #5 by Kat_D was hiding under his sound board according to his story while a poor-sounding and technically inept "angel"--if anyone believes that--made his appearance on the recording. It sounds a lot like the talkback button was employed--by whoever. Anyway, fault me for holding "angels" and talebearers to a higher standard, 'cause I don't buy this hokie tale.
Salutations to you, Sir Wintery.
Returning from Brasil, I read your post. It seems some in this thread place too much emphasis on angels. Again, I own 2 of Jason Upton’s worship CDs, including the one in question. When worshiping, it’s not about angels or talk-back buttons, it’s about God. Daddy God, Jesus and Holy Spirit.
Blessings, God’s Giddy Girl
I'm glad that Upton's music brings you close to "Daddy" God, however you are completely avoiding the topic.
Just because you get a high off of Upton's music, doesn't mean that it is truthful. I have personally been spiritually doped by music which (at the time) I believed to be grounded in theology.
It is Jason Upton's job to ensure that you believe his music is genuinely "of God", for if he fails, then what reason do you have to buy his album?
Music is materialistic, for what reason do we have to believe that music will live on for eternity? And when you worship God through music, what says you are not worshiping the music itself?
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 2/26/2010 1:03:43 PM
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Jason Upton Sings With An Angel?
Supposedly at the 5:00 mark, an angel starts singing with 'modern worship' leader Jason Upton.
Sounds like something off those 'Chant' cds from a few years back.
I've heard too many of these kinds of tapes before, just wanted to see what everyone thought of this one.
That is Jason's own voice.
I am a music producer and recording engineer........there is nothing unique about this recording........you can do amazing things with reverb, echos and eq in the studio.
I got stuff that changes vocal pitches and stretches them or even make them sound like aliens.
Don't fall for these types of claims.
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 2/27/2010 9:53:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience
Jason Upton Sings With An Angel?
Supposedly at the 5:00 mark, an angel starts singing with 'modern worship' leader Jason Upton.
Sounds like something off those 'Chant' cds from a few years back.
I've heard too many of these kinds of tapes before, just wanted to see what everyone thought of this one.
That is Jason's own voice.
I am a music producer and recording engineer........there is nothing unique about this recording........you can do amazing things with reverb, echos and eq in the studio.
I got stuff that changes vocal pitches and stretches them or even make them sound like aliens.
Don't fall for these types of claims.
If you can't tell where I was coming from from the tone of my post, I must not be doing my job! 
Far from falling for it, I wanted to see how the 'ga-ga over signs and wonders' crowd would defend it, and what those not so inclined had to say about it.
LOL!!!
Yeah my friend I wasn't claiming you were falling for it I was just speaking in general. "You" as in the just everyone who may be tempted to fall for it.
Anyways it was an interesting recording for sure though.
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 2/27/2010 7:54:11 PM
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With the new and inexperienced guy I have running the sound system we get a lot of really eerie unknown sounds, but most of them sound like the scream of a banshee from a bad 1950's movie rather than an Angel might sound.
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 2/27/2010 10:23:21 PM
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God cares about the pitch of our voice. He must because since we think the "Angel" was off key, it couldn't be an angel. I agree, God enjoys the voices of better pitched people than the off pitched so He had to have created Angels to sing well.
It is impossible for angels to sing audibly, the Bible states...errr...nevermind, it just doesn't mention it at all. So since the Bible hasn't mentioned it, even though it doesn't speak against it, it cannot be true. Jason Upton should be ashamed of himself for mentioning that people brought up this possibility. He should rather deny it being the work of God, because even though it's possible that it's an angel, it probably isn't.
I also believe that Jason Upton believes in the Latter Rain movement. Granted he has never said that he supports it, but he spoke at a conference that a Latter Rain preacher spoke at, so he MUST believe in it.
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RE: Jason Upton Singing With An Angel? - 3/9/2010 12:31:42 PM
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Most of his lyrics deal with that false doctrine
I mean, it's possible I am just missing it. . .
How about Trusting In Angels? I thought we were only supposed to trust in God.
I have to respond after reading so much of this thread. I thought this thread is to simply discuss whether you think it's an angel or not on the recording. The arguments should be to support or refute the scientific explanation of the 'noise'. As far as trusting angels, didn't Mary have to trust the word delivered to her about giving birth to Jesus? Didn't the sheperds have to trust the choir of angels proclaiming the good news of the birth? Didn't Abraham have to trust the word delivered by 3 visitors about Sarah conceiving a child? As a matter of fact, the Lord chastised Sarah for not trusting the word that was delivered.
I say all this not to support this recording, but to make sure we all understand that the Bible supports the existence of angels and that they are messengers of God. When they give a message, the recipient often immediately tells everyone what just happened (Mary told Joseph, the sheperds told the town, Abraham told everyone he knew). So the arguments that Jason or anyone else should just keep it to themselves is disheartening; however, I don't hear an audible message, just some noise that is 'in tune' with the song. I don't know where in scripture angels mumble and then leave.
Therefore, I am more prone to believe the noise is an anomoly more than anything else.
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