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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/11/2010 4:53:06 AM
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rawr.ben
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I just have a hard time imagining someone with such constant "celebrity" status could get away with kneeling down and praying to Mecca throughout the day without someone catching a snapshot or something leaking out. Just sayin'.
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/11/2010 5:10:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: prophet He confesses from his own mouth! Nothing quite like coming to a allegedly "Christian" forum to find an example of bearing false witness.
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/11/2010 6:25:13 AM
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Nothing quite like coming to a allegedly "Christian" forum to find an example of bearing false witness. This video has to be a joke or satire, no one could possibly take it seriously with all the sloppy editing. I'll say it again, President Obama is an Obamaist. He'll invoke any religion that will be helpful in whatever venue he is in.
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/11/2010 8:36:52 AM
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Moving this over to Kings - Prime Ministers - Presidents.
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/11/2010 9:05:40 AM
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He is neither a Christian nor a Muslim. He is a secular humanist. His god is government
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/11/2010 11:32:57 AM
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ORIGINAL: FunBetty Moving this over to Kings - Prime Ministers - Presidents. Conspiracy would be more appropriate, IMHO.
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/11/2010 12:44:28 PM
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President Obama is an Obamaist. That's more like it. I think in his keart of hearts he leans toward islam. But he is certainly the typical chameleon politician, no different than your standard fullsize, midsize, compact, or sub compact republican or democrat.
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/11/2010 5:51:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: cow451 quote:
ORIGINAL: FunBetty Moving this over to Kings - Prime Ministers - Presidents. Conspiracy would be more appropriate, IMHO. Everything is a conspiracy to you, Cow. Why is saying that Obama is a Muslim a conspiracy theory? He went to mosque in Indonesia on a regular basis with his stepfather. His Indonesion school record lists his religion as Islam. There are many Muslims who are not practicing. I've known quite a few who never prayed facing Mecca, or even prayed for that matter. One even ate pork. Some marry American Christian women and live very secular lives. He may not be practicing but he very obviously still has a soft spot in his heart for Muslims. How many presidents refer to the Koran as "the HOLY Koran". He held a dinner at the Whitehouse to celebrate the beginning of Ramadan last year. What has he done for other religions? I believe he is still loyal to his Islamic roots. I don't think he practices anything at this time. He attended Trinity because Rev. Wright has a lot of clout in the black community. Although I don't know what is in anyone else's heart, I don't think his conversion to Christianity was sincere. He doesn't think, speak or act like a Christian and has not produced any fruit that I am able to see.
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/12/2010 8:22:38 AM
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He may not be practicing but he very obviously still has a soft spot in his heart for Muslims. How many presidents refer to the Koran as "the HOLY Koran". He held a dinner at the Whitehouse to celebrate the beginning of Ramadan last year. What has he done for other religions? It’s all come down to what you want to believe rather than what is the fact. You can twist the facts, ignore parts of the fact and make a conclusion which supports your idea. As a missionary kid who lived many years in Muslim country, when I talk to Muslims I too refer myself as “ one of them” because it’s easy to talk/ witness to them when I can show that I understand their culture and religion and I respect their faith. Does that make me Muslim? When I talk to a Muslim I too refer Koran as “ the Holy Koran” or “ The Holy Book” to show my audience that I have utmost respect to their faith. Anyone who has any experience witnessing to Muslims successfully would be very unwise to disrespect Koran in front a Muslim. But than someone who lived all his life in Nashville or Charleston and never went to mission field hear a Christian refer Koran as “the Holy book” they will pull their Bible to prove that salvation is in question. quote:
I believe he is still loyal to his Islamic roots. I don't think he practices anything at this time. He attended Trinity because Rev. Wright has a lot of clout in the black community. Although I don't know what is in anyone else's heart, I don't think his conversion to Christianity was sincere. He doesn't think, speak or act like a Christian and has not produced any fruit that I am able to see. As I said you can twist the facts or even ignore it all together to support your own theory. President Obama refer Koran as “ the Holy Koran” and you right away conclude that he is Muslim but when he attend a church for 20 years you say it’s a political move.
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/13/2010 2:56:59 AM
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Nicely stated, Born_Again, and from one of the few with enough personal experience to know what they are talking about too. Thanks for posting.
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/14/2010 12:29:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: Born_Again Milliecat quote:
He may not be practicing but he very obviously still has a soft spot in his heart for Muslims. How many presidents refer to the Koran as "the HOLY Koran". He held a dinner at the Whitehouse to celebrate the beginning of Ramadan last year. What has he done for other religions? It’s all come down to what you want to believe rather than what is the fact. You can twist the facts, ignore parts of the fact and make a conclusion which supports your idea. As a missionary kid who lived many years in Muslim country, when I talk to Muslims I too refer myself as “ one of them” because it’s easy to talk/ witness to them when I can show that I understand their culture and religion and I respect their faith. Does that make me Muslim? When I talk to a Muslim I too refer Koran as “ the Holy Koran” or “ The Holy Book” to show my audience that I have utmost respect to their faith. Anyone who has any experience witnessing to Muslims successfully would be very unwise to disrespect Koran in front a Muslim. But than someone who lived all his life in Nashville or Charleston and never went to mission field hear a Christian refer Koran as “the Holy book” they will pull their Bible to prove that salvation is in question. quote:
I believe he is still loyal to his Islamic roots. I don't think he practices anything at this time. He attended Trinity because Rev. Wright has a lot of clout in the black community. Although I don't know what is in anyone else's heart, I don't think his conversion to Christianity was sincere. He doesn't think, speak or act like a Christian and has not produced any fruit that I am able to see. As I said you can twist the facts or even ignore it all together to support your own theory. President Obama refer Koran as “ the Holy Koran” and you right away conclude that he is Muslim but when he attend a church for 20 years you say it’s a political move. With all due respect, Obama is not a missionary in a Muslim country. He is SUPPOSED to be the president of the United States and he's supposed to show the same respect for each religion, not just one. And HOW MANY presidents have you heard say "the Holy Koran" or even talk about the Koran, for that matter. I KNOW that I am not twisting the truth. The truth is, he DID go to the mosque regularly with his stepfather, he WAS registered as a Muslim while attending a Catholic school, he DID have a dinner at the WH for Muslims at the beginning of Ramadan, AND the truth is he can recite the Muslim call to prayer in perfect Arabic. And the truth is, he's NOT a missionary in an Arabic country. So which one of us is twisting the facts to support his/her own theory?
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RE: Is Obama a muslim? - 5/14/2010 12:48:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: cow451 quote:
ORIGINAL: Born_Again Milliecat quote:
He may not be practicing but he very obviously still has a soft spot in his heart for Muslims. How many presidents refer to the Koran as "the HOLY Koran". He held a dinner at the Whitehouse to celebrate the beginning of Ramadan last year. What has he done for other religions? It’s all come down to what you want to believe rather than what is the fact. You can twist the facts, ignore parts of the fact and make a conclusion which supports your idea. As a missionary kid who lived many years in Muslim country, when I talk to Muslims I too refer myself as “ one of them” because it’s easy to talk/ witness to them when I can show that I understand their culture and religion and I respect their faith. Does that make me Muslim? When I talk to a Muslim I too refer Koran as “ the Holy Koran” or “ The Holy Book” to show my audience that I have utmost respect to their faith. Anyone who has any experience witnessing to Muslims successfully would be very unwise to disrespect Koran in front a Muslim. But than someone who lived all his life in Nashville or Charleston and never went to mission field hear a Christian refer Koran as “the Holy book” they will pull their Bible to prove that salvation is in question. quote:
I believe he is still loyal to his Islamic roots. I don't think he practices anything at this time. He attended Trinity because Rev. Wright has a lot of clout in the black community. Although I don't know what is in anyone else's heart, I don't think his conversion to Christianity was sincere. He doesn't think, speak or act like a Christian and has not produced any fruit that I am able to see. As I said you can twist the facts or even ignore it all together to support your own theory. President Obama refer Koran as “ the Holy Koran” and you right away conclude that he is Muslim but when he attend a church for 20 years you say it’s a political move. So we're not supposed to invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them all to Christianity (per Ann Coldheart)? What does Ann Coulter have to do with Obama being a Muslim? And what does the invasion of other countries have to do with it? Perhaps you don't have any other argument against Obama being a Muslim?
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RE: He is _ _________ - 5/14/2010 4:44:46 PM
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If President Obama is a Muslim, then I am the Queen of England.
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RE: He is _ _________ - 5/14/2010 8:10:24 PM
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ORIGINAL: tacitus If President Obama is a Muslim, then I am the Queen of England. Be careful what you declare>>>
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